Belle Selkirk: I went through my undergraduate, went through my masters, and even after graduating, going through registration programs to register as a psychologist, it was very much jumping through the White ways of doing things, hoops as I call them, all those colonial hoops. Again, that's kind of a sad experience for a lot of Aboriginal people to have to experience in their education. And it makes me feel sad to think that some Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander students probably didn't persist, or their trajectory went somewhere else, and maybe that’s for good or bad reason. I didn't really reconcile that within myself for many, many years. I think the confusion around what psychology was for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people lingered for me for many years. I continued with my clinical practice and enjoyed being... you know, and still to this day enjoy very much practicing as a psychologist. But I would say it's really only been in the last five... yeah, five or more years that I've really felt that decolonising psychology and Indigenous psychology has really had momentum and volume around it in a way that I've been feeling less dissonance within myself as an Indigenous psychologist. And I guess what my schooling experience was, that there is this ‘one psychology’, this universal psychology from a Eurocentric standpoint; this is what psychology is, this is what the norm is, and anything out of that is kind of the weird or different or an anomaly.